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  1. Will They Fit in the Frame & Fork? While it is possible to buy a complete new 29” front wheel that you can mount your existing Brake Disc on, you can’t with your rear. That will requiring building a new rear wheel, lacing your Bafang Hub Motor in the new 29er Rim and calculating new spoke lengths and truing the new wheel in a truing stand. That procedure will require the services of a experienced bike shop. And you should consider the following : Head Angle, Trail, and Pitch Stability “Trail is a function of head angle and fork offset, and it’s the largest determining factor in how a bike corners. 29-inch forks are built with a longer offset than their 27 inch counterparts, which means that 29ers require a steeper head angle to achieve the same trail measurement. A more kicked-out head angle yields a bike with greater pitch stability, or fore-aft stability. This means that when things get wild, you’ll be less likely to be ejected over the handlebars. This is mostly a factor for high-speed descending and steep terrain”. “Considering the impact of steering geometry is critical for making comparisons between bikes of different wheel sizes. A 29er with a 68-degree head angle will maintain composure at high speed, but low-speed handling, particularly cornering, will tend to be sluggish. By comparison, a 68-degree head angle on a 27 inch bike will yield a noticeably more responsive handling feel, but will be less predictable when initiating turns at high speeds. So, if you’re comparing bikes between wheel sizes, expect a 29-inch bike to be roughly two degrees steeper than a 27 inch bike with similar cornering characteristics”. “At a given speed, 29’ers do roll slightly more efficiently, and it’s most noticeable on flats or gentle grades, either up or down, with successive small bumps. The difference comes down to angle of attack. In other words, the larger wheel approaches a given obstruction at a shallower angle, enabling it to roll “through” the object, rather than “over” it. However, this example assumes a constant speed, and mountain biking is a dynamic activity”. “There’s a price to pay for this improved roll over. Larger wheels weigh more, and that added weight is placed farther from the hub, which further increases the wheel’s inertia. In other words, 29’ers require a stronger effort to get moving. This phenomenon is most noticeable when exiting turns, and during technical climbing, where bursts of acceleration are part of the game. Big-wheel evangelists will of course point to the fact that you’ll run lower gearing to compensate, but gearing doesn’t change the laws of physics. The fact remains that 29’ers maintain speed more effectively, where 27 inch wheels accelerate more efficiently.” Considering all that, it’s is probably less of a concern if your MXS will be ridden mostly on city streets and paved trails ..... One of the advantages and maybe pitfalls of waiting on our Sondors to be delivered, is deciding how to personalize, customize and modify our new bikes, in the time it takes them to get to us. I had new Carbon Fiber Replacements for the Handle Bar, Stem and Seatpost in my Parts Bin more than a month before my Sondors would arrive. I had replaced the Original “Tractor Seat” with one that my butt was already accustomed too, almost as soon as my First Generation IndieGoGo Sondors Fat arrived but all the other improvements I’ve made, were after riding quite a few miles and evaluating just what to consider. Now after over 15,000 miles, only the Original’s Frame, Fork, Battery Box and Bottom Bracket remain. Be Forewarned.... Once You Start It Ain’t Easy To Stop... the upgrades, not the bike itself, Magura MT-5e, Quad Piston and Pads Hydraulic Brakes with Larger Discs haul my Electric Black Lightning to a stop! 😀 REDDY
  2. A blanket statment on recharge cycles is meaningless because It’s dependent on the individual 18650 ver of the cells in the pack (they each have their own number of cycles dependent on their chemistry) and the depth of discharge the pack starts at recharge (Voltage) and how much of a charge you’ll top off the pack to. For best longevity, charging packs Low (amperage) & Slow is recommended to only 80% (Voltage) capacity. Lastly, those in the know and none of the Staff on this site recommend buying batteries direct from China because you have no recourse on your purchase, return shipping of Li Ion battery packs back to China might cost as much as the pack and Chinese Pack Suppliers are notorious for supplying counterfeit cells in their products. No, not everyone is out to cheat you but their have been too many reported cases to consider taking a chance. We recommend buying from one of the three trusted US Vendors known to this forum that support our brand and Sondors Upgrades. The First Two are the most reliable and helpful. Always communicate with vendors about individual compatibility and specifications for your individual application. https://boltonebikes.com/ https://electrobikeworld.com/ Luna is a long time supplier that is moving past a lot of the Sondors upgrades they use to feature and they don’t publish any guarantees . https://lunacycle.com/ Id suggest reading about Li-Ion batteries at Electricbike.com starting with this article https://www.electricbike.com/introduction-lithium-18650-batteries/ REDDY
  3. Oh sorry, I misread your post. The Sondors Hub and the spokes are not available thru Sondors (they don’t actually manufacture our bikes) so you’ll have to buy an aftermarket Hub. When I built my new wheels I went Aliexpress and bought the appropriate width (spacing between the fork dropout lugs) Hub with bolt on spindle/axel. After you have your hub you can use an online Spoke Length Calculator to determine your spoke lengths for your Specific Rim and Hub. https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator REDDY
  4. You don’t want to install a Front Hub Motor in a Suspension Fork. It’s been tried and documented here on the forum and there are dangerous handling problems associated with the combination. Matt Robertson’s Build of an AWD Sondors with Suspension Fork was switched to ridged fork because of this problem. I think his AWD Sondors suffered a broken frame and no longer exists as a Sondors. There are limits to high power modifications and the Twin Hub Motored Bikes don't afford much of an increase in top speed for all the extra weight and poor handling, especially with front suspension. Their best attributes are realized in straightline acceleration. REDDY
  5. Wow, might take a little time for Lindsey to get back to you if you didn’t follow her instructions in her post but I can fill in for her about her published info about the 60V battery that comes with the appropriate charger. https://electrobikeworld.com/products/l60-triangle-battery-60v-173ah-samsung-lithium-ion Introducing our latest product the L60 60v 17.3Ah Samsung lithium ion battery pack. This battery will produce higher top speed, faster acceleration, higher torque for hill climbing than our current L3 52v 20.3Ah battery. Both batteries will have the same distance range but the L60 will get there faster. The L60 & L3 both have same identical dimensions so you can install inside the Sondors fat tire battery box along with a 35amp controller. This battery is intended for the true enthusiast who wants to take their bike to the maximum level of performance! Order yours today and get ready to go 35 + mph top speed! We recommend this battery to be used with our 60v 35amp controller/60v LCD and 750w Bafang rear gear hub motor. Package includes: - 1 60v 17.3Ah triangle battery with genuine Samsung cells and XT90-S female plug pre installed - 1 XT90-S male plug with pigtails to be installed on your controller - 1 5amp high quality aluminum case battery charger with cooling fan - 1 year warranty from time of purchase (on non physical damage battery only) - Free shipping to the lower 48 states. International shipping is available *This battery is made to order and will take approximately 9-10 days delivered to your door. We also do customize battery pack according to your dimensions and specs. Please contact us here and let us know what you need. Contact us *disclaimer we are not responsible for any accidents, fire outbreak, explosions or any kind of damage or injury due to the use of our batteries and products. Please take all necessary precaution with the use of our products. Use at your own risk. REDDY
  6. I keep the Higo cable cap, to the LCD, taped inside my battery box in case a fall damages the LCD while riding. You can cap the lead and resume operation. REDDY
  7. Well, you are correct in that the US model of the Fold X does come with 500 Watt motor. Sondors in each individual model of the, Original Fat, the Standard Fold, the Thin and Step all have 350Watt motors. Here is the bright side of the 350 watt motors. My own second generation offered Kickstarter Campaign Sondors, Custom Narrow (no longer available from Sondors, called Custom, because you could customize it with a Aluminum Frame, Suspension Fork and/or Narrower Wheels and Tires, than the Fat’s, and now I’ve renamed it the “Electric White Lightning”) has a 350 Watt Motor. It’s much lighter than the Fat models and 40 pounds lighter than my own highly modified Sondors Fat, now renamed the “Electric Black Lightning” because the only original Sondors parts retained are the Frame, Fork, Battery Box and Bottom Bracket. Every other component has been changed, even the headset bearings. The Electric White Lightning has been upgraded with a 25Amp Aftermarket Controller and compatible LCD w/ USB port to power my headlight off the main battery power, a 52V - 20Ah battery and a 58Tooth crankset, so my legs can keep up at speed. This is a 33Mph bike and because of the high gear ratio 58/16 must be ridden at 20mph minimum because any slower and it requires lots of leg power at those slow speeds. But above that, I’m in the sweet spot on cadence, where I can comfortably spin within a range of about 20 to 28 mph The EBL, has the same top speed but it gets there a hell of a lot faster, with higher acceleration and torque. 750Watt, 52v 17.5Ah, 35amp controller with a Double Wall Origin8 rimed 26 X 80mm front wheel built with heavier 12 gauge Sapim spokes and a 26 X 4.0” Vee Tire Mission Command II Tire front. On the rear I’ve built a Double Wall Origin8 rimed 26 X 100mm rear wheel built with heavier 12 gauge Sapim spokes and a 26 X 4.7” (actually larger than the Sondors 4.9” Tire) Vee Tire Mission Command II Tire. The smaller front improves ride-ability with quicker steering. The EBL is a 7 speed, 56T / 11-34T Beast. REDDY
  8. Hello Tom P. Define, “Hills”? Although no Sondors Bafang Geared Hub motored eBikes are considered good hill climbers, especially under throttle only, they perform poorly when trying to pretend they are eMotorcycles. They are bicycles and are intended to be pedaled. The European Bafang 250 Watt Hub Motor is actually the exact same model as the rest of the world’s Bafang 350 Watt Hub Motor. Only the rating as labeled appears on the outside of the motor case, has been changed to “Protect the Innocent” and satisfy EU limits. Electric motor manufactures can arbitrarily rate their motors at their pleasure and the rating is a not indicative of any limit or actual watt usage. All that being said, looking at the terrain around your local, I don’t see anything that challenging and although I can’t judge the inclines on routes around Hampstead Heath nor Parliament Hill, I would think that throttle only might be capable but probably so with minimal human participation. Just be aware that throttle only use severely limits range, even for a guy weighing 12.5 Stones. I’d advise using Strava.com or the App to review actual cycling data and experiences near you. If you find the power unsatisfactory for your usage, take Solace in the fact that one of the greatest attributes of the Sondors eBike line of bikes, is that they are great platforms for customization and upgrading. There are examples here on the forum to upgrade the Folds’, clandestinely to 750 watt motors, while using your same 250watt case, keeping you observationally legal and your controller to a 25amps aftermarket version, which affords greater torque and acceleration, but which also requires a new aftermarket LCD display because the Sondors display is not comparable with any aftermarket controllers. That configuration should climb any roadway or trail around London with ease. You could even upgrade to a 52V battery that could fit in a rear rack mounted trunk pack. There is a Forum Member (Houshman Moarefi) that climbed the highest pave mountain road in Colorado (believe me that’s no hill) with his 350Watt Sondors Fat. That practice (most likely, the HEAT that was generated) caused motor failure. But that bike’s Motor was replaced and still operates 4 years later. REDDY
  9. My initial recommendation stands on the upgrades. BUT, If you want more speed and less personal physical input, like your wife’s MURF (she’s got the equivalent of a Sondors XS), all you’ll have to do is install the 750Watt motor. You’ll have to include the Controller with a matching Lg Higo connector to match the 750Watt motor cable plug. Want to go further, so your bike kicks her bike’s butt?, Next install a 52V Battery. If you do this final 52v upgrade, you can offer your Sondors 48V battery for sale here along with your Sondors & any upgrade Controller & LCD, in our Marketplace listings and list it on the Sondors Storm Owners Group Page on Facebook, “4Sale”. I like the looks of you wife’s Kenda Juggernaut tires, Member Housman used them on his conversion but they have some of the highest rolling resistance numbers in the Fat Tire Comparison Results. Not a consideration if your on the beach. Was 98° here Today .... REDDY
  10. That sounds like a Sondors Warranty Issue and a not uncommon controller problem. You need to go to the Sondors Storm Owners Group on Facebook. Once there ask to join. Once inside, there is a link to a support form that you can use to get to Sondors tech support. While in the Group, I suggest opening up a thread and asking the community for help on this as well. That will trigger folks' to tag the Sondors support reps who frequent that group and who are tasked with fast-tracking help in situations like yours - assuming they do not see your post themselves and contact you directly. I cant be of any help with that as this is the owners group and not part of the Sondors Company. We’re owned and operated by other owners to help other owners with problems and upgrades. I don’t do FaceStool or any other Social Media except serve here. REDDY
  11. Well that’s not much information, like Which Sondors eBike are you referencing and Which LCD is reporting the error code? There is a plethora of both. But the off the top of my head guess would be one of your brake levers is not releasing all the way and the brake cut-off switch is otherwise engaged, not allowing current to be delivered to the motor. Could be that one of the brake Higo connectors has unplugged, is damaged or a fall of or on the bike damaged a lever and the cut-off switch, within. REDDY
  12. If you’ve tried your vendor and Bafang in China and they were no help, I have no idea but Bruce Choate on Facebook would be my only guess who might have an idea or a source for used magnets if that’s even an option considering the marking and repositioning sequence of re-gluing magnets in motors. REDDY
  13. Questions? It takes the whole Forum to Help a fellow eBiker and that’s why we’re here. Well, answering backwards and your last thoughts first, I sold my VW Jetta TDI 2 years ago because it was such a Gas Hog. I had to buy 13 gal of Diesel every 60 Days and it only consistently got 50mpg )). When I decided to just rely on my bikes for transportation, primarily my Electric Black Lightning (I own 12 other bikes), I’m spoiled by the extra speed and ability to maintain my physical effort, regardless of wind, cargo load or terrain, with electricity, I knew I would need a backup and I bought back my Electric White Lightning, I had sold to a friend. I am enjoying the EWL as a single speed but it has real limitations and it’s truly an Exercycle. With It’s 58T Chainring and the stock 16T Freewheel in back, it’s a major effort to spin up to the cruse speeds that I try and maintain on my routes that matches my natural most comfortable fast cadence. It’s a high intensity effort from every stop sign or light at cross streets on my routes, to get up to 20mph then it has a narrow comfort range. To ride @ 30 mph, which I usually do on the last couple of miles of my routes, returning home, I spinning at my maximum cadence, just to keep that high cadence effort part of the workout. With my other ebike, the EBL, the torque and acceleration are addictive and the cadence sweet spot is much wider compared to “The White” which is a much narrower human power comfort zone, RPM & MPH, that usually results in riding it faster than “The Black”. But the EWL is transitional and will next spring be, 750Watt Bafang, 35Amp Controller, 60V and 7 speed. As to upgrading your own bike, the tenant I live by is, “If One Man (or woman) Can Do It .... Another Man Can Do It !” If you are Handy with Hand Tools and have a basic Mechanical Aptitude, I have no doubt you can do it. It Ain’t Rocket Science .... Until you get to over 60 Volts. )) 🚀 One thing I forgot to mention is that when you upgrade to any aftermarket controller, the Sondors LCD won’t be compatible , so the Controller and matching aftermarket LCD (several to consider) will need to be purchased together from Bolton. You will not be able to see an improvement in top Speed or Acceleration without the LCD/Controller and possibly the Battery upgrade, to the level you desire. You can try it with out the most expensive element, the Battery, and see if it meets your mission. You can always change the controller to battery connection, to an After Market Battery configuration (splicing wires with butt splices, No Big Whoop) if you decide, later to upgrade to the 52V Battery that has 10% more power than the 48V. Everything electrical you’ll need, you can get from Bolton and as with any online eBike upgrade purchase, either call or email Bolton with your desires, planned purchases and questions before placing an order. They can best advise you on comparability and availability. Here is the breakdown: And it will cost more than you’ll want to spend but you won’t be sorry, even with the wind upsetting your hair and bugs in your teeth! Controller for your existing 500watt motor and Sondors 48v triangle battery. https://boltonebikes.com/collections/motor-controllers-and-displays/products/36v-48v-25a-sondors-motor-controller-free-shipping Compatible LCD ...You have a couple of choices, Color $$$ or Monochrome $ Bolton continually sells out their inventory but they restock frequently. They are the best aftermarket vendor we trust. https://boltonebikes.com/collections/motor-controllers-and-displays/products/36v-48v-25a-sondors-motor-controller-free-shipping https://boltonebikes.com/collections/motor-controllers-and-displays/products/sondors-lcd-screen-free-shipping The Battery is a big investment and you might want to try your Sondors 48V first since its brand new and see if it fits your needs. Otherwise this is Bolton’s 52V upgrade, free shipping (which can be costly from other vendors) complete with Charger. If you decide to just go for the 52V now, it requires the same 25Amp Controller but a different version with a different Battery Plug to match the 52V.’s. Battery https://boltonebikes.com/collections/batteries/products/48v-20-3ah-triangle-lithium-battery Be sure to specify, in conversations, and when ordering, that you want the 25Amp controller with the battery plug or dongle to utilize the 52V battery you are ordering, if this is your desire. https://boltonebikes.com/collections/motor-controllers-and-displays/products/36v-48v-25a-sondors-motor-controller-free-shipping-1 To take advantage of the higher speeds you’ll be realizing ... in order to keep up with your legs, you’ll need to remove your existing Sondors crankset (42T) and install another crankset with a higher tooth count. Anywhere from 52T to 56T the highest I’d recommend. And that’s what I would, 56T. You’ll need a crank puller tool. Reference YouTube videos on the method of pulling and installing cranks. https://www.amazon.com/Crankset-Crankarms-Litepro-Folding-Protective/dp/B072C4XG4J/ref=pd_sbs_468_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B072C4XG4J&pd_rd_r=cb10b319-8058-4db9-a3b4-3a87cce77fae&pd_rd_w=xXEt2&pd_rd_wg=IHHi3&pf_rd_p=d66372fe-68a6-48a3-90ec-41d7f64212be&pf_rd_r=314M9C9JY19SPT9RHHRT&psc=1&refRID=314M9C9JY19SPT9RHHRT Because the new tooth count is larger than 42T, your old chain will be too short and you’ll need to buy another chain to add links to your almost new chain on your Sondors X (this is best accomplished with the help of a Bike Shop) or buy two new better chains (this is what I use and it’s the best for our upgrade applications with the new cranksets, nickel plated, easy to see when it’s dirty & keep clean and long wearing). There are chain lube recommendations here on the forum and on the interweb, online. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013BV540/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Unless you want to buy a chain break tool and learn how to size and use quick connects to connect chains (Youtube videos) this is also best left to a bike shop while you learn how, while it's being done, Owner Assisted. There are also videos on YouTube to complete the chain breaking, sizing and installing quick connects. Buy all the desired parts before you dive into upgrading. Let me take a wild but educated guess that your Wife bought a RadRover in some configuration. The following is good or bad news depending on who’s riding the Rover. “it Ain’t Got a 750 Watt Motor. See : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7K87AIiXFpY&feature=youtu.be But is she’s kick’n your butt on speed, she either has a different brand of eBike or her RR has higher Amp delivery Controller than your Sondors X, if your battery voltages (48V) are equal. REDDY
  14. Welcome Jay. The traditional highest performance modification on the Sondors Fat Bikes are 750Watt Bafang, 52V 18650GA , High Power, Long Range Triangle Battery Pack and a 35Amp controller. That’s the basics on my highly modified, “Original Indiegogo Campaign Fat”, now the “Electric Black Lightning”. Its top speed is 33Mph pedaling like Lance Legstrong with my shoes on fire. Only the Frame, Fork, Battery Box and Bottom Bracket are original. That being said, my second generation, Kickstarter Campaign, Sondors “Custom Narrow” (no longer offered), now the “Electric White Lightning”, single speed, with the 350 Watt Bafang, 52V 18650GA, High Power, Long Range Triangle Battery Pack and a 25Amp Controller, is also a 33mph bike but you can only pedal it to 30mph at max cadence, at least mine and I’m a life long cyclist. It takes longer to get up to speed than, “The Black” but its 40pounds lighter, with Narrower Wheels & Tires and a much nimbler handling bike. It’s also my bike for extended trips into the vast DFW-MetroStool on the network of commuter trains because it can hang on the Bike Rack Hooks. My suggestion for you would be to upgrade to the 25Amp controller for the 500Watt Bafang & a 52V Battery (provides 10% more capacity and higher speeds than the 48V) from BoltoneBikes.com and install a new crankset with a 52 to 56T Chainring. You should be able to cruise @ 25mph with just a little more effort than normal and reach 28-30mph topped out. Since you’re an experienced cyclist you might eke out a few more in a sprint. Installing upgrade tires with something with less rolling resistance but only with the same size diameter and circumference because anything less will reduce speed and throw your LCD reading off, will help with topend. Be sure and add fotos of your bike and adventures to our Gallery. Open forum pictures get lost in the timeline. REDDY
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